Kitty Stryker thinks women should die for saying ‘no’ to men

Previous posts here, here, and here.

H/t to Appropriately Inappropriate for her reblog of the tweet.

Kitty Stryker is a phoney and a fake radical who has co-opted the language of radical feminism, and shills for the sex industry while providing a fig-leaf for the BDSM ‘community’.

On twitter a few days ago, she said “I swear to god I wish we could just put the TERFs and Nazis on a goddamn boat together and send them into the sea.”

When someone else added “or we could put them in concentration camps? Maybe before they went into ovens? Lol” Stryker merely complained that that was “in bad taste”.

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Sryker has changed her twitter handle to “Punch Nazis”, and added a later tweet about ‘terfs’ drowning, so it’s clear she has no problem with violence against women, when they are women she disagrees with politically.

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This isn’t the first time Stryker has demonstrated that she sees women she doesn’t like as not fully human, in this tweet I screen capped a while back, we can see her wondering if radical feminists are actually real people, the ‘kill all terfs’ rhetoric follows on easily.

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Stryker is also an intellectual coward, who ran away from conversations on this blog she wasn’t winning, and now won’t even engage, but she does keep an eye on me, as she tweeted about my previous post more than once.

Here’s a clue for you Stryker, ‘terfs’ don’t exist, there are no ‘terf’ organisations, there are no ‘terf’ leaders, there are no women calling themselves ‘terfs’ except ironically, it’s a term trans activists made up in order to intimidate women into unquestioning silence and obedience.

Stryker also likes lying about the Nordic (Abolitionist) Model, claiming that it made it easier for the police to arrest her – tell me Stryker, how does decriminalising ‘sex workers’ make it easier for the police to arrest them?

She’s doing this still, implying that under the Nordic Model, the police are more dangerous to ‘sex workers’, deliberately and cynically obscuring the fact that the Nordic Model means decriminalising the prostitute her (or him) self.

[EDIT 19/Feb/17: If decriminalising ‘sex workers’ under the Nordic Model doesn’t make the police ‘safe’, then how will decriminalising the whole of the sex industry make the police ‘safe’?]

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The first loyalty of sex industry advocates is to the sex industry itself, always.

9 responses

  1. Oh my god! What a fake, what a phoney, what a coward!

    What kind of ‘activist’ hides their ‘activism’ away where only their friends can see it?

    lmfao

  2. Of course, I can’t assume it’s all about me, that tumblr post has (as of typing) 93 notes.

    But if one critical blog post from me is enough to send her into hiding in her own private echo-chamber, it strongly implies that the rest of the world was generally ignoring her anyway, and that her ‘activism’ achieved nothing.

  3. I read the conversation you had with kitty stiker on that blog postin its entirety. I must say I thought she made good arguments at first, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I assumed she was confused but sincere. But as it progressed it became clear her replies were contrived, I became suspicious she was most likely engaging only to help promote the industry – and possibly paid to do so. But these tweets confirms how insincere and harmful her behaviour truly is. Not to mention how misogynist and abusive she is prepared to be (non consentually!) Perhaps her BDSM does make her less compassionate to women after all, it certainly hasn’t helped her become empathetic or careful not to abuse women, never mind a feminist. In any case your arguments were much much better (brilliant in fact) and I could totally feel your frustration.. Ive had similar debates with other lib fem bloggers who ended up just blocking me – i was never rude or abusive – it happened at exactly the same point: When it comes to the question of juvanile prostitution or playing with BDSM fantasies about raping children (as opposed to fantasies about raping women – which apparently is just fine – yuk) they refuse to answer if its ok to play with. Yet they say fantasy and consent make everything just fine. But on this question they shut you down and refuse to confront it. I’ve never heard lib feminists defend or say its sexually healthy to have fantasies of raping children. Fantasies of torture, rape of women, or men and all manner of abuse is fine. Why? If fantasy of rape of women is fine why not defend the fantasy of rape of children, or fantasies of hanging black people or gasing jews or whatever. The answer is because of culture. We know we must be careful not to reflect bad culture in every aspect of our lives. It irritates the hell out of me because in my mind, if they were to answer this, whatever thjey said, saying it is ok or saying it is not, would end the debate in the eyes of nearly everyone who isnt an MRA fuckwit. Which is of course why they won’t answer what they already know is deeply immoral, sociopathic, disturbing and probably socially dangerous.. They have erotisised the abuse of women. They see no harm because it is normal in our culture to do so. Lib feminist pro porners haven’t (yet) erotiscised and normalised abuse of very young children. As such they can see, I believe, the terrifying harm that would do to society if we did. Its disingenuous to not confront this question, to make the connection that morally and logically they are both terrifyingly harmful to all of society. One has just already been normalised and the other hasnt. But how long will it be till it is? Mainstream porn already obsesses with teens. Fantasy , just like advertising ( a multibillion dollar industry proven effective) changes how we think and behave. BDSM, and porn culture MUST do to. Its inconceivable it doesnt if we all accept advertising (fantasies about real world products) work . Worse, we know sex in advertising influences our irrational behaviour more so. Normalising BDSM/Porn fantasies are likely to influence behaviours massively, in a similar way. I think this misogynist hateful tweet proves the point, that for Kitty Striker, its made her a cruel and hateful misogynist.

    Thanks for your work. This blog is great. Refreshing and thoughtful.

  4. Thank you for your comment!

    But I think it is possible to find liberal/sex pozzer ‘feminists’ defending ‘age play’ or ‘Role-playing as non-adults’ (the euphemism of choice for role-playing child rape), see the protests against the UK porn regulations from 2015.

  5. Yes, very true. But you’ll rarely find Jesabel, feminista etc and Mainstream feminism discuss ‘age play’ fantasies (and when they do its its usually 40yr old fucks 16year girl stuff) . The question never gets asked ‘Is it ok to fantasise about raping young children?’. I have heard the question ‘Is it ok to fantasise about raping women ‘ get asked frequently. I know some people will defend the former. But most people, mainstream feminism, who happily defend the latter will not under any circumstance be prepared to defend the former. Their logic is as crude as the fantasies they have..

  6. Meant to add, thanks for the link. Some excellent points made there. And again as with child pornography, imagine if we said you could show it as long as you only made it available to over 18s. ? I agree with the liberal feminists we shouldn’t censor porn. The BBFC legitimises porn by allowing its sale at all. If we found child porn we’d report it to the police. The same should be true of all porn (not just those 10 acts -though it is a start) . Those making it should be prosecuted for rape or abuse, not told its going to be censored. Censorship shouldn’t even be up for discussion. Porn is an act not just a form of speech and expression. .

  7. Thank you for the analysis! I’m sure you are aware of Dworkin and Mackinnon’s Civil Right’s Ordinance from the 1980’s – I agree that censorship is not enough, and I would much rather take the approach you describe and see it as evidence of abuse, not merely as images that one group of men has to stop another group of men from seeing (censorship has an absurdity at it’s heart). Have you read my Why (and How) piece? I think I may have to write a ‘part 2’ sometime soon, the argument always gets bogged down in ‘but what about this image’ type arguments!

  8. Thank for the link. Great article. When asked ‘define porn’ I like to counter with questions around child sexual exploitation. They hate it. Like ‘do you think there should be no limit on what young children see on TV ? How about those curiously educational children’s classics like ‘Animal Farm’ (no, not Orwell) and ‘My Step-dads Friends Gangbang My Teen Ass’. Perhaps these should be run alongside ‘In the night garden on CBeebies because, well, THERE’S NO WAY ANYONE CAN SAY FOR SURE THIS IS PORN, RIGHT?!

    TBH I think this kind if thinking IS a problem on some level. Kids TV is full of subtle and not so subtle violent and misogynist messages that should be resisted. But who (even in lib fem circles) would argue young children should watch PornHub because we can’t decide if every single video is porn or art. Adults are just as susceptible to propaganda and misogynistic messages (if differently so), because vulnerability to advertising doesn’t stop as soon as you turn 18.

    And even if we couldn’t define what is porn in every case, so what? We define laws all the time that have grey areas. We don’t say we shouldn’t try prosecute anyone for rape because some acts that look like rape might not be. But it isn’t complicated in any case, Dworkin/MacKinnons anti pornography ordinance definitions of what counts as porn are as unambiguous as many other laws could only dream of. Like the ridiculously arbitrary and ambiguous copyright laws, of which the entire porn industry depends to turn a profit. Copyright law prohibits a lot of people (mostly the poor) from accessing culture, education and sharing of knowledge and ideas. These socio-economic tools are accessible only to those who can afford to pay. Copyright IS censorship (and not to be confused with material privacy) so the porn industry doesn’t have a leg to stand on when using the porn is free speech line. Funny how they aren’t shouting that copyright is an impediment to free speech and free learning.

    Although actually, there seems to be a growing appetite for copyright abolition from the left: It is ironic but useful that the EFF and Open Rights Group who currently lead a campaign against porn censorship (which I’ve seen funfeminist bloggers promote) also seek, as their primary goal, to abolish all copyright laws. Radical feminists should seize the opportunity and help push this. Its a feasible and desirable goal in my view. It would kill the porn industry and severely harm capitalist media . Ad supported content would also start to collapse as stripping content would be legal , cheap and easy. We would still be left with personal revenge/hate porn and old porn (but that’s a different problem to the mainstream porn industry and the corporate misogynist media/tv industry). I am realistic though, this is a grand aim, and would require voluntary funding models and citizens wage and/or grant supported art/media/journalism models to replace it (though would likely create better quality and more varied content in any case) – films funded by the UK Film Council are a good example. Currently I see more people on the left (especially men) likely to support this idea than they are to support other radical feminist ideology. Most radical feminists are already anti-capitalist. Working together tactically would be worth a shot. The impact on women’s lives would be vastly improved with a porn industry unable to sell products because it can’t control or charge for their distribution. Bonus: liberal feminists who bang on about the evils of porn censorship shooting themselves in the foot trying to look clever would be an opportunity to good to miss 🙂

  9. Lots of interesting arguments, thank you!

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